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08:56 Oct 27, 1995 From richa011@maroon.tc.umn.eduFri Oct 27 08:59:47 1995 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 18:19:41 -0700 From: Eric B Richardson Reply to: one-world-com@webcom.com To: one-world-com@mail.webcom.com Subject: On arranged marriages (Arun, Vivek, Rick) >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 20:02:49 -0600 >From: Eric B Richardson (Eric B. Richardson) >To: Eric B Richardson >Subject: On arranged marriages (Arun, Vivek, Rick) >Newsgroups: alt.support.ex-cult,alt.religion.unification >Organization: U of MN Med School > >In article <46l6jr$4jk@sundog.tiac.net>, vri@tiac.net (Arun Malik) wrote: > >> If Rick wishes to criticize this practice, he'd be better off >> criticizing the _specific_ way arranged marriages are handled within >> the UC. >> >> For example, in India, the prospective couple do meet ahead of time. >> They do converse (under heavily chaperoned conditions), and most >> importantly, they have the right to turn down the proposed marriage. >> >> It appear from press reports, that many UC couples meet for the first >> time at the ceremony at which they receive Rev. Moon's blessing. >> > >and > >In article <46ot0p$dg1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, Rick > wrote: > >> BTW, The practice of arranged marriage is okay by me as long as it is >> completely voluntary, or is done in a way that is integrated with >> society and not the brainchild of some megalomanic cult leader. It's not >> the arranged marriages that make UC a cult, it's the way UC uses mind >> control. Arranged marriages are just one of the ways it uses mind >> control to assert control over the UC members. >> >> BTW, there are match-makers in the western countries, too. It's seen >> frequently in Jewish society. I forget the Yiddish name of the >> match-maker. >> >> >For example, in India, the prospective couple do meet ahead of time. >> >They do converse (under heavily chaperoned conditions), and most >> >importantly, they have the right to turn down the proposed marriage. >> >> Indeed...*most* importantly. >> >> >It appear from press reports, that many UC couples meet for the first >> >time at the ceremony at which they receive Rev. Moon's blessing. >> >> This to me is hideous. It is completely cynical, completely tramples on >> the "couple" and their identity as individual human beings. Moon regards >> people as little cogs in the wheel of his 'industry.' He's a brute. A >> spiritual brute. > >If you want to criticize the UC practice of arranged marriages for the >specific way it is done then you should know specifically how it is done >and what meaning it has for the participants-which you do not. > >By and large, *most* people that have received the Blessing, have >re-dedicated previous marriages to the practice and propagation of True >Love and True Parenthood, for the sake of world peace, and that occurred >in the last Blessing of 400,000 in August. > >However, there were before and during that time, between 1960 and 1995, >maybe a 150,000 couples that received a match from Rev. Moon. > >Now, most of those couples knew each other between the matching and the >Blessing, sometimes for more than 3 years, often living and working >together, but nearly always visiting and writing and talking on the phone >etc. All except a very few, had at least a week between the matching and >the Blessing to talk. > >People who are matched by Rev. Moon can and do say no. They have always >been re-matched. I know people who have turned down two or three >matchings, before getting one they liked. > >But most people who went to a matching, were prepared to meet and commit >to one person, to love that person *no matter what*. They knew already >that the person accepted the same cosmology and theology as they did, >shared the same views about the nature of love and the centrality of >family. They knew that where ever the person came from in the world, that >person shared a great deal of common experience. > >Every person that took a matching without talking, did so fully aware that >they could have turned it down, but, as adults, made the decision to make >a commitment to love another from another nation and another culture, >whoever Rev. Moon picked, *no matter what*. Most of us believe that there >is a spiritual component in what we are doing, on a couple of different >levels. > >First, there is a belief that the person who is picked for us, will help >us to overcome the weak points of our character and vice-versa. Second, we >believe that working it out in such an extreme situation, sets up a >spiritual situation that helps resolve some of the history of conflict >between men and women. Third and last, working it out between people of >different nationalities, cultures and religions, helps prepare the way for >us to do it on a global level. Our marriages were dedicated consciously >and from the beginning for the sake of world peace. > >I am one of the unusual ones actually. I was only one of two (of about 600 >couples matched) at my matching in 1982 that was matched by picture: I >only had a picture of my wife to decide from. She accepted me with not >even that much. To me that is strong faith, and that is a quality I value >in a person. I didn't even meet her until 12 hours before the Blessing. >But once again, I was one of the unusual ones, most of my friends had been >matched and known their fiancées for years, and everyone else at my >matching had at least a week to converse and finalize their decision. > >My father and my wife's father tried to kill each other in WWII. My father >planned the invasion of my wife's hometown and rejoiced when the bomb was >dropped across the bay, because it meant he would not have to send a >couple hundred thousand men to die while killing several hundred thousand >Japanese. Now they have become inlaws and before my father died, became >friends and expressed great respect for each other. > >Personally, my matching and marriage are the most incredible, wonderful >events of my life, and have brought me only the greatest joy. Without >knowing of what value this has to me and hundreds of thousands others, >your blanket, ignorant condemnations smell of rank bigotry, arrogance and >intolerance. > >yours, itl > >-- >===================================================================== ># Eric B. Richardson, Univ of Minnesota Medical School # ># richa011@maroon.tc.umn.edu # >********************************************************************* ># "What are we going to do tomorrow night, Brain?" # >#"Same thing we do every night, Pinky, try to take over the world!" # ># "Narf!" with thanks to S. Spielberg # >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > ===================================================================== # Eric B. Richardson, Univ of Minnesota Medical School # # richa011@maroon.tc.umn.edu # ********************************************************************* # "What are we going to do tomorrow night, Brain?" # #"Same thing we do every night, Pinky, try to take over the world!" # # "Narf!" with thanks to S. Spielberg # !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:02 Oct 28, 1995 Subject: Re: Why not just say "Moonie" (was Attack of the 50 foot...) Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <45sf5g$is2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <45su8g$k55@linet02.li.net> <4605pp$gb9@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : Eric B. Richardson (richa011@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : : In article <469dua$f4h@linet02.li.net>, peegee@newshost.li.net (Merchant : : of Chaos) wrote: : : > You are a Moonie and you gave money to North. I rest my case. You are a coward who will not use his own name and then insults others. : : Right, so if a Catholic gives money to the Republican party, then that : : proves that the Catholic church supports the Republican party. : You have to get out of the habit of comparing your church to other : religions...the Catholic church and the Unification Church do NOT operate : the same way! Catholics, especially American Catholics, have a large : amount of freedom and independence in their religious values and : beliefs. The Moonies do not. This is not true. The members of the Unificationb Church have the same freedoms everyone else in our society does. If they CHOOSE to follow a religious tradition, that is their CHOICE, they are not coerced into it. : All you have to do is look at the number : of Catholics who use birth control, are pro-choice, and who support the : concept of women in the priesthood, all things which go against the : philosophy of the church leadership. All that says is that there are plenty of people who are not faithful to the teachings of the Catholic Church and yet want to be called Catholics. : How many people in your church do : you know who disagree with Moon's policies? How many church members do : you know who openly criticize Moon? I know of people who call themselves members of the Unification Church and criticize it openly, but they are not welcome in my home. : How does Moon respond to members of his congregation who criticize? He generally does not respond to them directly. Instead, he invests himself constantly in bringing his vision of the world to reality, despite the barking dogs and critics. : The freedom to go against the church : simply isn't there in the UC, the way it is in the Catholic church, and : other religious movements. Where do you get your information from, Hassan? CAN, that is going bankrupt? How many Unification Church members do you know personally, I mean MEMBERS, not EX-MEMBERS. : When you gave that money to North, how do you : know if it was really YOUR decision? Ha ha! How do you know anything then? How do you know that it was your decision to write the drivel you just wrote? And hey, I didn't give money to Oliver North for his legal defense, but I sent him a political contribution for his US Senate race in Virginia, and I sent a contribution to Alan Keyes, a black candidate for President of the USA. He is in my opinion a much better candidate than the liberal General Powell. : How do you know the idea to support : North wasn't planted in your head, and because you didn't have the freedom : to question or disagree, you felt compelled to go along with it? How do : you know? What horse-feathers! How do you know that the CIA hasn't put mind-control chips in your fillings? Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English) Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
12:06 Oct 28, 1995 Subject: Re: Why not just say "Moonie" (was Attack of the 50 foot...) Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <45sf5g$is2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <45su8g$k55@linet02.li.net> <4605pp$gb9@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : Well, Eric, you've got to admit spending time in jail does tend to dampen : the credibility factor, doesn't it? Hell, you've got Steve Hassan pegged : as a kidnapper, and he's never been in jail at all!!! If you're willing : to smear the credibility of someone who's never been in jail, why won't : you question the believability of a convicted felon? If Moon is a great : spiritual man of God, who is here to bring salvation to all mankind, : don't you think he ought to be able to avoid getting into trouble with : the government? Shouldn't a "saint" take the time to fill out his tax : return? You mean like Jesus, and Martin Luther King Jr. and St. Paul, and many of Jesus' apostles and Joan of Arc? There are lots of good people who were unjustly jailed in the past. Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English) Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
12:21 Oct 28, 1995 Subject: Re: Why not just say "Moonie" (was Attack of the 50 foot...) Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <45sf5g$is2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <45su8g$k55@linet02.li.net> <4605pp$gb9@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : Eric B. Richardson (richa011@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : : And since you seem to be one for the law, what legal right does the mother : : have to stand on someone else's property and demand to see her daughter, : : if the daughter already said that she doesn't want to be seen? : *BUZZ* Sorry, wrong answer, but thank you for playing...when you watch : the video you will see that the daughter NEVER said that she doesn't want : to be seen...the daughter NEVER said ANYTHING because the Moonies : wouldn't let the daughter and the mother TALK TO EACH OTHER!!! Well, you don't know from the videotape what else happened. The thing about video is that you can leave things out selectively. Maybe there is a history of violence of the mother towards the daughter. There could be any number of reasons why the daughter did not want to see her mother, and as an adult, cannot be forced to spend time with someone, even her mother. : : That makes sense to me; it is unlikely that deprogrammers are going to : : burst in and kidnap her with a national news crew recording. : That makes SENSE to you?!!! An 18 year old woman AFRAID to talk to her : own mother?!!! Because she's afraid of being KIDNAPPED?!!! What normal : 18 year old person worries about being kidnapped by their OWN PARENTS?!!! The sad fact is that some parents DO pay for thugs to kidnap their own children and then attempt to have them recant their beliefs by force and intimidation. Not all 18 year olds are capable of withstanding this kind of pressure. The media can take the law into their own hands, but if the daughter wants protection from her mother, she could get a domestic violence restraining order, prohibiting the mother from seeing her, but you need evidence of past abuse. Unfortunately, the relationship must have been pretty broken down already for things to have gotten to this pitiful level, : : From that point of view, we are just defending an adult woman's freedom of : : choice in religion. : Why was her freedom of religion in question? Is it not possible for a : young woman to freely practice the Unification religion, while AT THE : SAME TIME maintaining a good relationship with her parents? Why is the : church asking her to choose between God and her family? Why can't she : have both? Yes, in normal circumstances it is. and most members of our church do see their parents, but everyone in this society is on good terms with their parents, whether in out out of our church. Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English) Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
23:39 Oct 28, 1995 On Sat, 28 Oct 1995 (Raymond Reynolds) ceasfire@mail.bogo.co.uk wrote: > Damian said > > >Try fasting. It is a great way to have an experience of the value of > >nature and food in particular. > > Ray to all > > Hi there!.......Hmmmmm!..... Fasting!.....I wondered whether or not to say > anything about this but seeing as we are one big (happy!?!) > family I've decided to respond.... > > Like most members if not all. I have done quite a few seven day fasts as > well as three day and one day fasts......and I don't intend to choose to do > any more........Fortunately the church doesn't have any carrots left to > strongly motivate me to do any (for the providence or otherwise!)........By > carrots, I mean The three Great Carrots as given to man by his > leader........I am speaking about the British Unification Church (BUC) as it > is in its stranglehold that I spent most of my spiritual life .... Since we have another M. Scott Peck fan, namely Dan F on this list, I would like to quote what I remember to be his stages of religious development from "The Road Less Travelled". They were: 1) No religion - anti-social stage 2) Rigid and unquestioning adherence to religious dogma 3) Rebellion 4) Cosmic awareness Please don't flame me if I didn't get them perfectly right as I read the book some years ago, and it was a library copy, so I don't own it. But my observation is that there are a lot of people on this list who have been through stages (1) and (2) and are now in stage (3). I would describe this as a kind of spiritual adolescence. It is necessary to OWN the faith of one's youth. In childhood, one absorbs without question the values and beliefs of one's parents. At a certain stage, everything is called into question and examined. It is the "Dogmatic Stress Syndrome" that another poster commented on. It is a necessary stage to go through, but at the conclusion, one needs to get beyond rebellion to a personal faith in God, and a love for God, not because it is what someone else told me to do, but because I love God and desire to be in relationship with Him who gave me life and everything I have. Having spent two years in Britain as a Unification Church member, I have some idea what you are talking about, though I was a CARP pioneer in Cambridge University, so I was out of the mainstream firefight. I lived on a college grant and did not need to fundraise, I lived in college accomodations, and answered to God alone. At the end of term, I would go home, and would also visit the Church center in London to work on workshops or some other project. But I know that there is a lot of bitterness in the British church because of past abuses, and one could say that it is justified. However, if you maintain that bitterness, it hurts you more than anyone else. The British leaders were not following Father's tradition of love and service, and are now reaping the fruits of it as you say. I have also had a large dose of poor leaders, and I concluded that the only way to get a faithful understanding of Father's tradition is to read what he teaches, DIRECTLY, without the intervention of leaders. I was at a Blessed couples conference on Dec 19, 1990, and Father said clearly that he wants us to listen to him and not to the leaders, since many times they do what he tells them not to do, they do not allow members to leave for missions in other places and so on. He said that he wants members to read his words, and to listen to what he says on video or audio tape without anyone filtering what he says. I have the tapes of the speech, on video. It was about 6 hours long. Still, leaders have their uses and are an asset if they do as Father directs. Here in Washington DC, we have a wonderful cooperative relationship with Rev. Chong Jik Woo. He has truly won the hearts of the members and has been spectacularly successful in the last few years, so much so, that there are rumors that the 3.6 MegaBlessing may be in Washington DC. I love and respect this man, and I can say that I had little or nothing good to say about the previous Korean leaders here. In 1993, I started a determined effort to read Father's words. I bought the 20 year book set of Father's words and in the last two years, I have read everything published by Father for the years 1988 - 1995, and 1957 forwards. I am reading Father's speeches backwards from the present, and then forwards from 1957. It is fascinating to see the vision and ideology of True Parents unfold over the course of those years. I am very busy now and I'm doing a lot of things, but I still make a condition to read at least 21 minutes per day. I am also reading DP on a similar schedule, and UNews and Today's World. My course has been unusual in that I have never had a church job that paid me money, nor lived in church centers much, so I am not a company man, so to speak. I am my own boss, and I am committed to True Parents' vision and ideal because I see True Parents' way as the way for salvation for all humanity, and I don't need any leader prodding me to do anything. I am self-motivated. Also, I make a very good living in my profession, so I don't need to ask anyone for money. All my projects are self-financed, and I still tithe to the church. > THE THREE GREAT CARROTS Yes, I hate being manipulated, and I rejected this control, but paid bitterly for it. Still, I could have done what I needed to do in a more principled way and caused myself and my family less grief. I did not ask my central figure's permission for starting my family, but started when I felt ready, but I failed to follow True Parents' tradition for this, and I regret that. There is a big temptation to throw the baby out with the bathwater when one gets mad at church leadership. Father has always set the standard of incredible hard work and altruism, even if the leaders have abused and manipulated the members. True Love exists in the UC, but rather than trying to find it, it is better to roll your own! That is, generate it and give it away! Don't expect to receive it first, but give it and then you'll get it. Since I started this Internet witnessing work, I have had members come out of the woodwork from all over the world, offering to help me. And I have had unsolicited praise from the public, and from people wanting me to answer their questions. It is most rewarding and heart-warming to have this experience. I want to teach more people than Saint Paul ever did. I have also had bitter opposition from outside and inside the church. Some of my most bitter critics are right here on this list. I can't think why a loyal Unificationist could have a problem with me disseminating Father's teachings since that is what he has asked us to do. In fact, in one speech, he said that the reason the Unification Church has failed to attract more members is that we failed to disseminate his teachings, to teach the DP and Father's thought. Instead, so many of us, for years at a stretch, hid at home, afraid to admit that we were asoociated with Father, so great was our fear of persecution, and I include myself in that number. I feel called by God to evangelize and no critic, inside or outside the church, is going to gag me. > To get back to fasting I am presently on a ten year condition of fasting on > the 15th of every month. I started in 1989 and I finish in 1999........As > Damian suggested fasting does give one a deep appreciation for > food...sometimes whilst eating I get the feeling of double checking that it > isn't the 15th of the month and when I realise it isn't I really am grateful > and have a deeper satisfaction with the food that I am eating. It is true > that there are so many things in life that many take for granted, one of > these things is breathing and oxygen.......I think that is what went wrong > with the BUC it took the members for granted...........and now it's > suffocating!!!!!! In the last two years, I have done quite a lot of fasting too, and I found it to be a cleansing and purifying experience for the mind and body. It was much easier to do it however, when I chose to do it and set the time and conditions myself, and it was entirely voluntary and sacred, between me and God. Your condition sounds good. I did several conditions where I would fast 12 hours per day for 21 days. This made it possible for me to drive and work and not pass out from hunger, yet still, for most of my waking hours, I was fasting. > Raymond Reynolds > Tel/Fax +44 (0)181-553-2115 > Email ceasfire@mail.bogo.co.uk > Mobile 0956-969329 Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English) Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
23:50 Oct 30, 1995 Subject: Re: Damian Anderson Newsgroups: talk.religion.buddhism,alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc References: Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: world Dorje Carl (cbmanz@io.com) wrote: : Jim Williams (williams@tiac.net) wrote: : : cbmanz@io.com (Dorje Carl) wrote: : : >In article , : : >"Damian J. Anderson" wrote: : >As you will see, It was Carl Dorje who started talking about the : >Unification Church, not me. I was posting the World Scripture which : >brings together the teachings of all the world's major faiths and : >many of the minor faiths. : > : >Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work >damian@unification.net : >Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English)..... : Dear Mr. Anderson, : 'Unification (Church)' is embedded in every SIG, with every post. : 'Unification Home Page' is dedicated to propagating the doctrine of the : 'Unification Church'. These are both true, but the content of the World Scrpiture is not Unificationist doctrine, but the doctrines of the world's religions. : 'World Scripture' is a document written and published by the 'Unification : Church'. Actually, the Unification Church did not write the World Scripture. It was written by a group of 40 scholars representing the religions of the world. The sections on Buddhism were written by Buddhist scholars, not Unificationist scholars. The Buddhist scholars who contributed were: Hajime Nakamura Professor of Religion Emeritus Tokyo University Founder-Director The Eastern Institute Tokyo, Japan (Buddhism) Dr. Pahalawattage Don Premasiri Department of Philosophy University of Peradeniya Peradeniya, Sri Lanka (Theravada Buddhism) Ven. Prof. Samdhong L. Tenzin, Rinpoche Director, Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies Sarnath, Varanasi, India (Tibetan Buddhism) Rev. Losang Norbu Shastri Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies Sarnath, Varanasi, India (Tibetan Buddhism) Rev. Takahide Takahashi The Eastern Institute Tokyo, Japan (Japanese Buddhism) : So, enough of that... : It's clear that you post to this newsgroup (as well as : alt.religion.unification, talk.religion.misc, alt.religion.christian, : alt.religion.islam) for only one reason. You are assuming a reason without knowing my motives. : You are 'fishing' these 'waters' : in hope of catching new members. That is a wrong assumption on your part. I don't think that God wants people to change their religion so much as he wants them to change their character. : As a _general goal_,I ( for a minority of : one perhaps ), don't object. However, you use the Buddhadharma : for 'bait' and in the process, edit and distort the teachings for your own : purposes. This is frustrating because _everything you assert about the : Dharma, from a ‘Unification’ point of view, is WRONG_. Excuse me, but what I provided on Buddhism are quotes, with very little interpretation. Besides, what makes you say that your interpretation is correct and that of the World Scripture is wrong? : This, together with : your unwillingness to discuss and debate the assertions you put forth in : your 'tracts' makes you, IMHO, an unwelcome guest in a group dedicated to : examination and analysis. I am not unwilling to discuss issues, but I will not respond to flames and hateful diatribes. : If you are willing to state your doctrine clearly and respond to criticism : in the form of open discussion and debate, feel free to do so. The : continued one-sided posting of ‘tracts’ however, can only be seen as : propaganda. IMO, propaganda that functions by distorting the Buddha’s : teachings (especially within a Buddhist newsgroup) needs to be exposed for : what it is. I do not intend to discuss Unificationist doctrine on talk.religion.buddhism, as that is not the forum for that. If you want to discuss Unificationism, I will do that on alt.religion.unification. I am posting the World Scripture because I believe that our world is in DESPARATE NEED of spiritual vitality, from whatever direction it comes, and my intent is not to gain members for my church. There are a lot of people who find the contents of the World Scripture uplifting and inspirational, and I post it for them. Those who do not can learn to use a killfile. : Yours in the Dharma, : DCarl Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English) Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
00:01 Oct 31, 1995 Subject: Re: On arranged marriages (Arun, Vivek, Rick) Newsgroups: alt.support.ex-cult,alt.religion.unification Followup-To: alt.support.ex-cult,alt.religion.unification References: <45mf1b$k3f@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <46guht$aqv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <46iq3k$h39@larry.rice.edu> <46jjee$ckc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <46kvvp$72u@larry.rice.edu> <46l6jr$4jk@sundog.tiac.net> <4739tk$3nm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Rick (an234911@anon.penet.fi) wrote: : Cult member, begone! : This is a support group for recovering people once abused by religious : cults. Psychological and sociological research has demonstrated the : harmful effects of UC and other high demand groups. Your 'post' is : nothing but a fanatical pro-UC rant and is as transparent as glass. The news group I am reading this on is alt.religion.unification and it is not a group for anyone recovering from anything, except maybe recovering from a life of sin, and turning to God. So you take your bigoted attitudes and the anon.penet.fi white sheet over your head and crawl back under the rock that you came from. : Rick S. Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net (English) Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com