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00:17 Oct 31, 1995 Subject: Re: Why not just say "Moonie" (was Attack of the 50 foot...) Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <45sf5g$is2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <45su8g$k55@linet02.li.net> <4605pp$gb9@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : Eric B. Richardson (richa011@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : : Would you like to show a court case that it was decided that : : the UC used mind control? : The problem here is, quite simply, mind control is NOT against the law. It : is not illegal, in the United States of America, to brainwash somebody, : therefore, no court would have a reason to rule that the UC used : mind control. This whole issue of mind control is such baloney. If you are talking about influencing people's minds, then the biggest and most damaging influences on people's minds in America are Hollywood and Madison Avenue. Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
01:00 Oct 31, 1995 Subject: Rev. Moon's teaching on the Holocaust Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <45sf5g$is2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <45su8g$k55@linet02.li.net> <4605pp$gb9@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : Eric B. Richardson (richa011@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : : No, Rev. Moon never blamed the Jews that died for their own deaths, nor : : did he deny that Hitler was to blame, and in fact has called Hitler the : : Anti-Christ. : : It is you that have twisted it to mean so in your own mind. : Eric, none of us can know what Moon really meant, because none of us have : seen the speech in its entirety. Damian is still refusing to post it. : And Steve Hassan is too afraid of a copyright lawsuit to post it : himself. The only way to resolve this is to let us see the full speech, : so none of it can be taken out of context. I don't know of any one speech where I read this, but it is pretty clear to me that Rev. Moon teaches that the Jewish people sinned grievously by killing Jesus. The fact that Hitler killed 6 million Jews was not the will of God. However, the law of indemnity or karma is such that God could not protect them when they sinned but had to allow Satan to attack them, just as in the Old Testament times, when the people sinned, they were invaded by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, or whoever. They were able to be recreated as a nation only after paying the historical price for the sin of their ancestors. The same principle applies to all peoples, not only the Jewish people. I may come across a quote to this effect as I study Rev. Moon's words regularly. If I find such a quote, I will post it here. Until I have a large number of his speeches in electronic format, I cannot do electronic searches on much text. If America fails to do God's will and does something to deviate dramatically from God's will, then God will be unable to prevent Satan from rightly punishing the American people for their sin. So, when Rev. Moon says that at the Last Judgement many people will die, it does not imply that HE will kill them, but that they will die because God's blessing will be removed from them and they will fall under a curse. Rev. Moon is God's messenger, and if people fail to recognize him and follow his teachings, their country will decline. Look at the decline of America since the 1960's. It is clear that America has lost its Godly heritage and is rapidly declining. Only a spiritual and moral revolution such as what Rev. Moon proposes can save this country from perishing entirely. The AIDS epidemic shows every sign of being a vehicle for God's judgement. Those who refuse to live a pure life will die of AIDS. Now is the time of the Last Judgement, and we will either go towards creating Heaven of Earth, if we choose, or we will perish in a hell of our own making. The choice is for each of us to make. You have been warned. : Please talk to Damian, and use whatever influence you have to convince : him to post "Master Speaks." I do not know which speech it is, and I have agreed with HSA Publications not to publish Master Speaks because of their unreliablility. I would however like to see speeches from that era retranslated and published. And here is a quote from Rev. Moon about Master Speaks: "How can we create unification? The way of unification is simple. You heard how people tremble when they read in 'Master Speaks' that I said we will conquer the world, but how could we possibly do that? With bombs or fists? You say that we will use love, but whose love? My love? I am a mortal man who may change, but the love of God will not change. God is eternal and if the love of God is burning in each individual's heart then we don't have to worry about how the Unification Church will unify the world because the love of God will do it." Rev. Sun Myung Moon, "The Tradition of the Unification Church", p 8, December 11, 1977, Belvedere, New York, Translator - Bo Hi Pak. Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
01:19 Oct 31, 1995 Subject: The Last Judgement and Spiritual Revival Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <45sf5g$is2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <45su8g$k55@linet02.li.net> <4605pp$gb9@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : So now you're saying I can't oppose you. Did you see my follow-up about : the differences between the Catholic Church and the UC? I pointed out : that Catholics are free to criticize and Moonies are not? Doesn't this : kind of prove my point? Most religions welcome debate and discussion. : Why do the Moonies have such a problem with those things? Hey, are we not engaging in discussion with you? I welcome debate and discussion and so does Rev. Moon. He spends huge quantities of money to organize conferences for inter-religious dialogue while our church buidings fall into disrepair. It clearly shows where his priorities lie. : : The God of True Love does not use force to change people. He uses love and : : truth. Education. : And what does the God of True Love do with those people who don't want to : be changed? Who refuse to be changed? What happens to them, hmmm? God has in the past brought judgement upon mankind. Remember the flood, the deportation of the Jewish people in Babylon, the crusades which should have showed the medieval church that it was on the wrong track, communism, each of these have been God's way of exercising judgement on His people. God allows such evils to exist so that His people can finally repent and overcome them. Many people who refuse to change will die of AIDS. There will be natural disasters and all kinds of calamities, social upheaval, if people refuse to change. The God of love is also a God of justice, and evil will not exist forever. It will finally vanish from the face of the earth. The evil potentates will be expelled. Look at the 1994 election! ;-) : : Every mis-interpretation of religious people of the past that has : : justified the aggressive use of force to accomplish religious goals, has : : only sown the seeds for its own defeat. God has always had to pick up the : : pieces afterwards and make do as best as he could. : The problem is I am NOT GOING TO CHANGE unless you DO apply an : aggressive use of force against me!!! That will not be necessary. Rev. Moon will not use force. It is not God's way. But there will be circumstances in people's lives which will give them cause to reevaluate the kind of message that Rev. Moon teaches. The current American culture is going to die, through the weight of its own corruption. When people are faced with increasing chaos in their lives, then just as the Prodigal Son reassessed his life, so the people of this country will do likewise and go back to their Father's house, of their OWN FREE WILL. I predict that there will be a dramatic spiritual awakening in America before the end of the decade, which is also the turn of the century and the millennium. It will be even greater than the social imapct of the decline of communism. This change in America will affect the whole world, and will usher in a new culture of the emerging world of the 21st century, the third millennium. Mark my words. Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
01:38 Oct 31, 1995 Subject: The laughable accusation of brainwashing Newsgroups: alt.religion.unification,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.support.ex-cult References: <45rvg0$e0u@linet02.li.net> <4603jl$gb9@linet02.li.net> <4624m5$3fq@sundog.tiac.net> <464 <46na8g$8i0@linet02.li.net> Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Merchant of Chaos (peegee@newshost.li.net) wrote: : Arun Malik (vri@tiac.net) wrote: : This is a false assumption, based on a misunderstanding of how mind : control works. The very purpose of the information all day long is to : get your mind to just tune it all out! If you are paying attention to : what is said, you might start to analyze it critically. The idea is for : you to become bored, so you will drift into an hypnotic trance-like state, : at which time you become *suggestible*. Once in this state, the : information will seep into your head, without you even realizing what it is : that you are learning. That's how the indocrtination works. : : You give the UC a lot of credit for having a VERY effective : : "indoctrination" process. Why is it so difficult to believe that a : : quiet hour or two alone - in which you are NOT allowed to talk to : : anyone else, would not be a carefully considered part of that : : "indoctrination"? : Like I said, it could be, under controlled conditions. Especially if the : Moonie has already learned how to chant to themselves, in which case he : or she will probably use the "quiet hour" to self-hypnotize him or : herself with the chanting. While you two learned gentlemen debate how Rev. Moon controls people's minds, may I quote what he has to say on the subject? Here we go: "Why am I accused of brainwashing you? Simply because I have brought the message with power so strong as to ignite a heavenly revolution in the hearts of young people. Such a thing has never been seen before and thus I am accused of brainwashing. How could I brainwash you if I never met any of you when you first came to the movement? There are many members in state centers and on MFTs all over the nation who have never seen me. How could they be brainwashed without even seeing me? Many people think that I am a dangerous hypnotist, but this is contradicted by the fact that our members remain dedicated for many years. If I had the power to hypnotize people without them even seeing me then wouldn't I have already hypnotized all the 4.5 billion people of the world? My enemies want to stop me by spreading rumors and vicious accusations, painting a grotesque picture about the work I am doing. I do not have to go to 120 countries for this work to grow, for even without my presence our movement is expanding in those nations. Do you think a gun or even the atomic bomb could stop our activities in those 120 nations?" Rev. Sun Myung Moon, "The Spirit World and the Physical World", p 16, February 6, 1977, Belvedere, New York, Translator - Bo Hi Pak. Thus spake the Master :-) : : |Arun Malik Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
05:40 Nov 1, 1995 Subject: Is the Unification Church Christian? On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, S. I. wrote: > Greetings! > > Is the UC a denomination of Christianity, or a separate entity? IOW, do > Unificationist consider themselves part of Christianity or not? Note > that this question has nothing to do with the fact that Unificationists > believe in Jesus and accept the Bible. Baha'is do also, but do not > consider themselves Christians or a Christian denomination. > > Please reply directly to me since I might not read this newsgroup for > some time. Rev. Moon of course believes in the Bible and in Jesus, but is seen in the role of True Parents, along with his wife, and as such, they are the fulfilment of the expectations of all religions, not just Christianity. So, in the same way as Jesus came to fulfil the messianic expectation of Judaism, Rev. Moon comes to fulfil the Messianic expectation of Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and so on. So, UC is NOT a denomination of Christianity, but a religion on a new level. I hope this answers your question. God bless you. > > Thanks, > > S.I. > > ## True loss is for him whose days have been ## > ## spent in utter ignorance of his self ## > > -* Baha'u'llah, Words of Wisdom #21 *- Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
06:09 Nov 1, 1995 From damian@unification.netWed Nov 1 06:12:32 1995 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Damian J. Anderson" To: Eric Indiogine Subject: Rev. Moon and Baha'u'llah On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, S. Indiogine wrote: > Thank you for such a quick reply. > > On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Damian J. Anderson wrote: > [snip] > > Rev. Moon of course believes in the Bible and in Jesus, but is seen in > > the role of True Parents, along with his wife, and as such, they are the > > fulfilment of the expectations of all religions, not just Christianity. > > So, in the same way as Jesus came to fulfil the messianic expectation of > > Judaism, Rev. Moon comes to fulfil the Messianic expectation of > > Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and so on. So, UC is NOT a denomination of > > Christianity, but a religion on a new level. I hope this answers your > > question. > > Yes, actually it answers the question very well. Again I am impressed by > the uncanny similarity of this statement of your's to the statements that > Bahaullah made over 100 years ago. I would really appreciate some > comments from you on this fact. I would say that Baha'u'llah was a forerunner in the role of someone like John the Baptist. His message was true and he could have even become the one who fulfilled the messianic expectations of all religions, but he did not achieve it in his lifetime, so it must be left for someone else to accomplish. Divine Principle teaches that Jesus came with the mission of Messiah, but because his leading herald, John the Baptist, failed, then he had to take on the role of proclaiming himself, in fact becoming his own forerunner and spokesman. It is better for the Messiah to be proclaimed by someone else, but Jesus was also a 'self-proclaimed Messiah' and people rejected his claims for a variety of reasons. Rev. Moon also was originally to take up the messianic mission directly, but because those who were prepared to testify to him failed to do so, he began the thankless task of proclaiming himself, and building his own independent foundation separate from Christianity. The Second Coming of Christ is supposed to occur on the foundation of Christianity, but the Lord was rejected when he came, so he had to start again from scratch. Jesus indicated that something like this may happen when he said: "When the Son of Man comes, will he find any faith on earth?" Luke 18:8 and also "But first he must suffer grievously and be rejected by this generation." Luke 17:25 So, he also took on the role of forerunner to himself. Jesus told his disciples NOT to reveal that he was the Messiah because his foundation of support was not yet enough for people to receive it. Similarly, up to this point, Rev. Moon's foundation was not sufficient until recently for this annouincement. But since 1992, Rev. Sun Myung Moon and his wife have been proclaiming themselves as the messianic couple, and that all mankind must be reborn into their lineage which comes from God, by means of the Blessing in marriage. I read recently that Rev. Moon was asked back in 1965 about Baha'u'llah, and he said that the man was a forerunner to the Messiah who is to come. > Thank you very much. You're welcome. As always, I will post an anonymized version of this on Usenet. I appreciate your thoughtful questions. > Bye, > > Eric Indiogine (sindiogi@nmsu.edu), Las Cruces, New Mexico > > ## True loss is for him whose days have been ## > ## spent in utter ignorance of his self ## > > -* Baha'u'llah, Words of Wisdom #21 *- Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
07:12 Nov 1, 1995 On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, B. C. wrote: > Damian wrote on alt.religion.unif.: > > >I don't know of any one speech where I read this, but it is pretty > >clear to me that Rev. Moon teaches that the Jewish people sinned > >grievously by killing Jesus. The fact that Hitler killed 6 million > >Jews was not the will of God. However, the law of indemnity or > >karma is such that God could not protect them when they sinned > >but had to allow Satan to attack them, just as in the Old Testament > >times, when the people sinned, they were invaded by the Assyrians, > >the Babylonians, or whoever. They were able to be recreated as > >a nation only after paying the historical price for the sin of > >their ancestors. > > B.C. responds: > > This antisemetic drivel is not Father's teaching. It is dangerous and > destructive of interfaith dialogue with persons of the Jewish faith, and I > believe it is innappropriate, indeed, outrageous, for you to be posting it > as Father's view. While many of your postings are positive and accurate and > serve to debunk myths about the UC, I believe you should consult with the > Church and Father before espousing antisemetic views in Rev. Moon's name on > the internet. I'm sorry, my brother, but you will not gain anything in this discussion by ad hominem attacks on me. The fact is that Father DID teach this. Here is what he said, allowing that Master Speaks are considered unauthoritative translations: "By killing one man, Jesus, the Jewish people had to suffer for 2000 years. Countless numbers of people have been slaughtered. During the Second World War, 6 million people were slaughtered to cleanse all the sins of the Jewish people from the time of Jesus." (MASTER SPEAKS 2/14/74) Now I admit that I got the quote from Steve Hassan, and I would have to look up the speech for myself to verify that he actually said this. I would request that Tim Elder look up the original Korean of this speech and tell us what he actually said, given his excellent knowledge of the language. > Andy Wilson and others have written at length on this issue and I believe > you completely misrepresent the Church's view. I am not interested in representing any politically correct "Church" view, but what is the truth and what did Father teach? > Father, for instance, has > publicly stated that it was the failure of Christianity to unite with and > protect the Jewish people which led to the Holocaust. This may also be true, and of course, if Christians had fulfilled their mission, Communism would not have come about either and hundreds of millions more lives would have been saved. But let's analyze the points that I made one by one and determine which ones you disagree with: Point (1) >I don't know of any one speech where I read this, but it is pretty >clear to me that Rev. Moon teaches that the Jewish people sinned >grievously by killing Jesus. Was it a sin to kill Jesus? Were the Jewish people responsible for his death? May I remind you of the central value of the Messiah to God's providence. Father has said in recent speeches that the value of the Messiah is greater than that of all humanity. God would be willing to give up the lives of all humanity for the sake of His son. That is because the Kingdom of Heaven is not possible without the Messiah, but it is possible without all those other people. Here are some quotes from the Divine Principle: "We must understand that when Jesus said the poor had good news preached to them (Matt. 11:5), he was indicating his grief over the disbelief of the Jewish people, and especially that of John the Baptist. The chosen people of Israel, especially John, had been richly blessed with divine love and care. Nevertheless, they betrayed Jesus, and he was compelled to wander about the seacoast of Galilee through the region of Samaria to search among the poor for those who would listen to the Gospel." Divine Principle, p. 160. "Since God's will was thus to have the Israelites believe that Jesus was the Messiah, the Israelites, who were supposed to live according to God's will, should have believed in him as the Messiah. If they had believed in Jesus as the Messiah according to God's will, how could they have crucified him, after having waited for him for such a long time? It was because, against God's will, they did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah, that the Israelites crucified him. We, therefore, must realize that Jesus did not come to die on the cross." D.P., p143. "We have learned from our study of the Bible that the ignorance and disbelief of John the Baptist brought about the disbelief of the Jewish people, which finally compelled Jesus to take the way of crucifixion." D.P., p 163 Point (2) >The fact that Hitler killed 6 million Jews was not the will of God. "The Jesus-type personage on the Satanic side was Hitler." D.P., p. 488. "Furthermore, Hitler massacred six million Jews." D.P., p 485 It does not explicitly state that it was against the will of God, but that Hitler was acting on behalf of Satan and that he killed 6 million Jews. If you can come up with a better quote on this, let me know. Point (3) >However, the law of indemnity or >karma is such that God could not protect them when they sinned >but had to allow Satan to attack them, just as in the Old Testament >times, when the people sinned, they were invaded by the Assyrians, >the Babylonians, or whoever. The Old Testament is replete with examples of exactly this principle. It is well elucidated in Jeremiah 18:5-11, and in the examples of the 400 years slavery in Egypt, the Babylonian exile, the 40 years wandering in the desert, in each case, the suffering of one generation was caused by the failure of their predecessors. To give some DP quotes on that: "The Northern Kingdom of Israel, due to the people's faithlessness, was taken captive by Assyria. After that, the Southern Kingdom of Judah, due to its faithlessness, was also taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylonia. " D.P. pp 396-397. The Divine Principle indicates that the nation of Israel lost its position as the chosen nation in charge of God's heritage due to the crucifixion of Jesus: "On another occasion (Matt. 21:33-43), Jesus clearly indicated, in his parable of the vineyard, that the Lord would not come again to the nation that would persecute and kill him, but take the Kingdom of God (the heritage) from them and give it to the nation producing the fruits of it (at the time of the Second Advent). In this parable, Jesus meant God, by the owner of the vineyard; God's heritage, by the vineyard; the chosen nation of Israel in charge of God's heritage, by the tenants; His prophets, by the servants; the Lord, by the owner's son; and a certain other nation which will be able to fulfill God's will in receiving and serving the Lord of the Second Advent, by another nation producing the fruits." D.P. p. 517. >They were able to be recreated as >a nation only after paying the historical price for the sin of >their ancestors. I cannot find a quote on this, but the Master Speaks quote does address it. The fact is that the Jewish people committed a grievous sin in rejecting the Lord, and the world is today committing a grievous sin in rejecting the Lord. I will not water down what Father said to please liberal constituencies within his own church. I am sorry, but sometimes the truth hurts, but that is what Father calls "medicine love" rather than "candy love". It is the love that comes with bitter medicine that Father has to bring to America and the world that will give us life, not all the warm fuzzy love. I am posting this on a.r.u with your name removed. Sincerely, Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
07:21 Nov 3, 1995 Subject: Re: Moon, the anti-Semite Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.unification,alt.religion.christian,alt.messianic Followup-To: talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.unification,alt.religion.christian,alt.messianic References: Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Distribution: Zvi the Fiddler (mail03662@pop.net) wrote: : <> I have been informed by several people that Rev. Moon issued a statement on the Holocaust in 1976, and that I have in fact misrepresented what he teaches on this subject. I don't know where Steve Hassan got this quote, but I did not verify it, and that was an error on my part. I received a copy of that statement in the mail (snail) and I will scan and post the statement as soon as I get the time. : How interesting. So the Moonie leader (assumiong a correrct : quotation) is an anti-Semite. Okay FECs, I'm waiting to hear : you denounce him. I have not been able to establish the authenticity of the quote. : Zvi the Fiddler Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work damian@unification.net Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net Web Pages in French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese, Italian See daily articles on talk.religion.misc, or to receive by e-mail, Send "subscribe unification-texts" to unification-texts-request@webcom.com Send "subscribe world-scripture" to world-scripture-request@webcom.com
14:22 Nov 3, 1995 From laszlozw@ix.netcom.comFri Nov 3 14:25:13 1995 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:44:06 -0800 From: Laszlo Weress , Laszlo Weress Reply to: one-world-com@webcom.com To: one-world-com@mail.webcom.com, Dorje Carl Subject: A note I got You wrote: > >In article <470tfi$pgc@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> (Re: World Scripture - >Loving-Kindness), you write: > >>In cbmanz@io.com (Dorje Carl) >>writes: >> >>> >>>In article , >>>"Damian J. Anderson" wrote: >>> >>>>LOVING-KINDNESS >>>> >>>> Texts on loving-kindness, compassion, and heart-felt love for >>>>others fall into four groups. First we have general admonitions to kind >>>>ness, benevolence, and gentleness.... >>> >>> >>> >>>>Damian Anderson +1-301-921-0082 Home +1-202-267-9403 Work >>>>damian@unification.net >>>>Unification Home Page http://www.unification.net >>> >>> >>> >>>A quote, as published on Mr. Steve Hassan's web page in the section >>>devoted to the 'Unification Church' - >>> >>>"Mr. Sun Myung Moon - >>> >>>"So from this time of peak every people or every organization that goes >>> against the Unification Church will gradually come down or drastically >>> come down and die. Many people will die >>> those who do against our movement." (MASTER SPEAKS 2/14/74)" >>> >>> >>>If anyone would like to know more about the Unification Church, see >>Steve >>>Hassan's web site that deals with cults in general and the U.C. >>>specifically. >>> >>>http://virtumall.com/mindcontrol/main.html >>> >>>If you would like to acquire additional information about the Moon >>cult or >>>other destructive organizations, you may contact Steven Hassan, author >>of >>>Combatting Cult Mind Control (Park Street Press, 1988), by writing to >>P.O. >>>Box 686, Boston, MA 02258." >>> >>>FYI, >>>DCarl >> >>Are you trying to be funny? Otherwise I see no reason why you would >>post this on The Unififcationist Newsgroup! >> >>Hewwwwoooooo! Anybody's home???????????? >>_________________________ >>Laszlo Z. Weress >>"Religion is for people who don't want to go to hell, >>spirituality is for those who have been there..." >> >I am in no way trying to be funny. I am, at the least, trying to get >Mr. Anderson to stop posting Unification Church propaganda to >talk.religion.buddhism. His posts have nothing to do with Buddhism >and he only posts 'his' nonsense there to attract potential members >to U.C. He has been doing this for a VERY LONG TIME NOW. If you >have any influence with Mr. Anderson, get him to stop. > >Dorje Carl His post do ususally include buddhist as well as other passages from other sacred texts. What he publishes are parts of a religious anthology collection, not his own writing. It was assembled by over thirty theologians and religious scholars--including 3 buddhists--trying to find the COMMON thread among different belief systems. I do not have any influence with Mr. Anderson, however he has my spiritual support in his endavor in trying to bring all of us onto common ground. I will not divulge the personal details, but that man has and is living a very saintly and sacrificial life. He will not be detered by persecution, neither will I. We Unificationists are the nuts, who thrive under persecution. Talk about unsolicited postings; I did not send a personal posting to you, I had answered one of your cross-post responses concerning Mr. Anderson. Your inclusion of the Newsgroup post is an unsolicited repetition. Why send a Unificationist information on where they are being bashed? To rub salt into wounds? This is definetly not the attitide of Buddhists I know, and I know a few. _____________________________________ -- Laszlo Z. Weress "Religion is for people who don't want to go to hell, spirituality is for those who have been there..."